We are not honouring the dead. We are celebrating and retelling the lies which killed them. #anzac
I am amazed at the extent to which almost everyone it this country has a mythologized view of the Gallipoli campaign #historianproblems
With the backdrop of ANZAC spirit being used to "inspire" another invasion, with all the actual lessons of ANZAC forgotten...
And I've never felt more conflicted about an ANZAC Day.
This ANZAC fervour (and resultant anti-fervour) seems to have largely escaped Auckland so far.
To get to some good point in the ANZAC centenary, have to make your way through ANZAC the amusement park ride and ANZAC the empty platitude.
The NZ of 2015 at least as much a product of Vietnam, the Tour, Rogernomics, immigration, jet travel & the internet as it is of Gallipoi.
Agreed. Since when does nationhood get reduced down to a fetishized memory of killing and being killed?
When I were wee, #anzac was a day of shame, disgust and anger. Parents, teachers, community leaders, veteran relatives led the charge.
Tomorrow, let's also make more of an effort to remember the Turkish soliders who died were defending THEIR home from invasion. #AnzacDay
For many of us, our ancestors' experience of war wasn't Gallipoli: it was the Blitz, Dachau, Belfast, the Killing Fields, or Eritrea.
Contrast the @radionz business news with the rhetoric of egalitarianism in the ANZAC coverage
Anzac commemorations this year are ever so slightly ridiculous. Everyone has gone way OTT and as a result I have no stomach for any of it.
The next time I hear someone say that Gallipoli was the first major battle NZers were involved in I'm gonna break something #NZLandWars
Hate to be cynical but there's a good reason Turks in and around Gallipoli are so welcoming to NZers, they need our tourist dollars.
I had intended to be at the dawn service. Now PMs says we should turn up to show support for war on ISIS. Should I go anyway?
It is really quite aggravating to have the centenary ANZAC commemorations hijacked in this way. #rtpt
the "Lest We Forget" headlines have already started and its isnt even frigging ANZAC day yet. Its like Christmas carols in September
$25 million is being spent on monuments and commemorations relating to foreign wars: around $250,000 for those fought on our own soil
If this exponential rate of patriotic frothing continues, by 2020 ANZAC day will be extended to a month and every new baby will get a gun
My kids are so into ANZAC Day, school and society at large heaping it on. How to make it about peace, and not compulsory patriotism?
ANZAC Day overkill in the news this year. How about a talk on why we shouldn't be going to Iraq and why ongoing war today is bad. #nzmedia
We should probably rename it ANZAC week.
Also apparently the reason we have poppies for Anzac is cos a shipment for Armistice Day got delayed so they sold them on April 25.
New Zealanders didn't land at Gallipoli until 9am-12pm on April 25, the Australians landed at dawn. Why then do we have a dawn service?
ANZAC Day 1967, 2 men arrested in Wellington (later convicted) for trying to lay a wreath to “the dead and dying of all sides in Vietnam”.
But you will never hear conscientious objectors acknowledged at any ANZAC commemoration, anywhere. They're still treated like traitors.
I acknowledge soldiers who gave their lives. I also acknowledge those, like my great grandfather, who were tortured for refusing to kill.
All the Govt is effectively doing with this ANZAC commemoration 'over the top-ness' is ensuring the next generation of cannon fodder.
@RFStew ANZAC Day is a religious rite that we're all expected to participate in. Some argue it's about preventing war, I see glorification.
ANZAC day is not a day of celebration for NZ. It's a day of sorrow. Of remembering that war is not glorious. Politicians need to learn that.
When we start commemorating wars by taking the time to look at the decisions that sent many to their deaths, is when I'll be reverential.
ANZAC should be a day to step back and reflect on the utter insanity of Australia and New Zealand invading Turkey. TURKEY!
Remembrance of war isn't glorification. It isn't cynical in itself. But the political ends to which that commemoration is put can be.
Instead of attending Dawn Service for ANZAC Day, I'll be re-listening to a visceral history of WWI. So should you. http://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/ …
.@3NewsNZ is digging into experiences of "the Great War", but makes no mention of the reasons for it. Negligent.
Perhaps the ANZAC centenary is exactly the right time to question and reconcile our own New Zealand wars in all their complexity
I have no problem with ANZAC commemorations. I do have a problem with Gallipoli being remembered through rose coloured self deception.
Any politician looking to use Anzac commemorations to advance the cause of current ill-advised military deployments, should be widely shamed
Let's not romanticise WWI. Most died young in trenches filled wth each others blood, shit & vomit, th overwhelming stench of death in th air
I'm never going to understand why, or how, Australia and New Zealand have made such a fetish out of an incompetent bloodbath. #ANZACDay
Commemorating the old war by starting a new one.
The best way to honour the memory of the dead is to create a world in which war is functionally impossible. We are not doing that.
During the next week people will tell you two things, one of which is true: War is evil. War is necessary.
@bryce_edwards Anzac Day is now just crass. I remember when it was a dignified celebration.
In 1914, the imperial hegemon dragged us into a war far away. In 2014, the imperial hegemon dragged us into a war far away.
My sense growing up was that ANZAC commemorations were always tinged with "what a bloody waste". This year, I'm just not getting that.
Since we've learned exactly nothing from the pointless carnage of Gallipoli, corporations might as well use it to sell shit
Every time I try to write 'Anzac', autocorrect turns it into 'anachronistic'.
I just want any mention of Gallipoli to include "and it was fucking stupid we were there, and it achieved as good as nothing" #rpt
Can't help but feel like ANZAC day this year is turning into a perverse spectacle - even more than usual
Please remember that Gallipoli was an absolute bloody disaster this ANZAC day #nationtv3
Usually tolerant of ANZAC Day hype, but this year has me tested. Typically, it's about today we begin introspecting. Too much too soon.
As 100 years of ANZAC approaches I wonder if people realise who was responsible for the cock up in 1915
EVERY MUSEUM CURATOR IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW: "Our intent is not to glorify war" [proceeds to glorify war]
So, the WWI museum is going to have an experiential trench with the smells and sounds? Good, we hadn't quite reached peak Anzac porn yet.
i think its no coincidence that th deployment of NZ & Australian troops to Iraq hs been timed for Anzac & WWI commemorations, lest we forget
I prefer my companies don't use a day of national mourning to build their nationalists, good ol' Kiwi reputation.
Meanwhile, in New Zealand, ANZ is using the day as a marketing tool too. Meet the Shadow Battalion: http://www.shadowbattalion.nz/meet
@secondzeit I believe they also have an ANZAC atm, covered in poppies and all. It all seems rather tone deaf.